Madara was stunned, pondering this question.
Obito said, "Madara, when I was a child, my dream was to become Hokage. After being led astray by you, I once gave up on that dream, but then picked it back up again at the end."
"But, after going to the Pure Land and starting over, I suddenly realized that I no longer wanted to sit in that position. Do you know why?"
Madara was actually a very intelligent person, and he had once been only a step away from the position of Hokage, so he had already figured it out.
He said blandly, "Every person who becomes Hokage will, without realizing it, be bound by the Will of Fire. Hmph, what the hell do they understand about the Will of Fire? The original meaning of the Will of Fire clearly referred to the will of the Uchiha."
Obito said, "Yeah, I only came to understand this recently. Before, I always thought I had entrusted the dream of becoming Hokage to someone else, so I no longer had obsession."
"But actually, subconsciously, I had already realized this issue."
Obito pointed to the land beneath his feet, "In the entire ninja world, you won't find another piece of land more fertile than here. The Hokage understands this logic best."
"What is the Will of Fire? It's to protect this land, and to let the fallen leaves take root and continue to reproduce on this land!"
"Why is it that during Konoha's peak, when it had abundant military strength, it still didn't want to attack other ninja villages and bring them under its control?"
"Is it because of peace? No!"
"It's because Konoha's conditions were too good. They didn't want to eat sand, didn't want to play with mud, didn't want to sleep restlessly on cliffs, didn't want to live isolated on remote islands where going out was inconvenient. Those lands were too poor; Konoha didn't even look at them."
Madara was shaken, and he couldn't help but start thinking, 'What will happen if someone like Danzo became Hokage?'
After a few years, it might really turn out like what Obito said: from being ambitious at the start, to gradually losing interest, and eventually just guarding his own little plot of land, generation after generation, letting the fallen leaves take root on this land.
He couldn't help but let out a bitter smile.
"So, Obito, what you mean is that you want to use this machine to make every piece of land as fertile as Konoha, so that people from every piece of land can give birth to the Will of Fire?"
Obito nodded, "Yeah, even in deserts where resources are extremely scarce, you can use chakra to build a prosperous city. If you can do that, then what can't be done elsewhere? Madara, I'll take you to Rōran when we have time. It was only after seeing that place that I got so much inspiration."
For a moment, Madara also felt this plan was feasible.
He couldn't help but start thinking, 'If we really follow Obito's idea, what else will we need?'
Then he said, "If chakra can really accomplish the kind of things you're talking about, then maybe your vision could work, but before the resources are fully spread out, a lot of problems will arise."
Obito nodded, "I know, this will cause a huge impact on the entire ninja world. If it goes wrong, it might even trigger a war bigger than the Third Great Ninja War."
Madara said, "As long as you understand. So, how do you plan to solve it?"
Obito glanced at Madara, "Use the method you and Hashirama once used. Maybe force can't bring permanent peace, but it can suppress all dissenting voices in the short term and buy us precious time to spread the resources."
"Once everything settles down, and every place becomes like Konoha, lacking nothing, then the ninja doctrine passed down by the Sage of Six Paths will have soil to survive in. Then we'll have time to slowly guide ninjas back to their original state. Ninjas will no longer be tools for killing, but monks who nurture themselves and their minds."
"Madara, what do you think of this plan compared to the Infinite Tsukuyomi? Even if we manage to resolve the dangers of Black Zetsu and Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Infinite Tsukuyomi could still be one component, only by then, everything will be purely voluntary."
Madara fell silent. He didn't want to admit that his own vision was inferior to someone else's, but everything Obito said did sound quite beautiful.
'To plant a seed called the Will of Fire in every corner of the ninja world. This is something even Hashirama would want to see, right?'
Madara suddenly felt tempted.
He thought for a bit and said, "It's been a long time since I've stretched my muscles. Anyway, I don't have many years left to live. Let me use the rest of my time to move around a bit."
"Your purpose in developing the Akatsuki is to use it to suppress some voices, right?"
"I might be able to help, but I have one condition."
Obito was overjoyed. Madara not only had great strength but also held immense prestige in the ninja world. Even if that prestige was somewhat negative, it was still extremely useful, wasn't it?
Madara's name, whoever uses it knows how powerful it is. It works everywhere. If he was willing to help, some matters could start immediately.
So, he said, "Whatever your condition is, just say it. I'll do my best to fulfill it if I can."
Madara calmly said, "I want to be the leader of the Akatsuki."
"Huh?", Obito's mouth dropped open, 'Madara actually wants that?'
'Well… it isn't impossible.'
He said, "If you can convince Yahiko, then of course you can."
Madara crossed his arms, radiating powerful self-confidence, "There's no chance of failure. Tomorrow, take me to the Akatsuki."
Obito nodded, "Alright, and I'll also take you to Rōran. The underground factory there has already secretly begun producing this chakra conversion module. I've been worrying about how to launch the business. Whether it's under Sara's name or mine, there would be endless troubles."
"And, you probably don't care about those."
Madara snorted and reminded, "Obito, those who want to illuminate the world yet like to hide in the shadows, that's not a good habit."
Obito shook his head, turned around, and said, "I just want to protect Rin and create a beautiful world for her. As for who realizes it, I don't care."
After saying that, his figure disappeared.
By this time, the sky had completely darkened. Watching Obito walk away, Madara calmly said, "Then let me see how far you can go."
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The next day, after sending a shadow clone to the Uchiha training ground to train, Obito's real body brought Madara to Rōran.
Looking at the towering and magnificent city, even Madara was a bit shocked.
"This was really done with just the dragon vein's chakra?"
Obito nodded and said, "Yeah, and maintaining the operation of such a city isn't even that difficult. Conservatively speaking, with the power of the Ten Tails, we could effortlessly maintain thousands of such cities."
Madara glanced at Obito, "So this time, you still want to collect the nine tailed beasts to form the Ten Tails?"
Obito said, "That's the idea. It doesn't have to be the complete form. As long as we collect some chakra from each of the tailed beasts, we can use the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path to cobble together a semi-finished version of the Ten Tails."
"That's what I did last time, and the concept is feasible."
"This version of the Ten Tails might be weaker, but we're just using it as an energy source. More than enough…"
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