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Chapter 5 - Chapter 5: Elder Interviews - Rose Crow Feather

Maya woke on her third morning in Colorado feeling more rested than she had in months, despite the vivid dreams that had filled her sleep. The dream from the night before lingered with startling clarity—she had been standing by the sacred lake again, but this time the man with dark eyes had spoken to her in a language she somehow understood, calling her "Numa" with such tenderness that she'd woken with tears on her cheeks.

She touched her lips, remembering the dream kiss that had felt so real it left her questioning the boundaries between sleeping and waking. The taste of mountain air and woodsmoke seemed to linger on her tongue, and she could swear she still felt the warmth of hands that had cupped her face with reverent tenderness.

Through her hotel room window, the mountains stood silhouetted against the dawn sky, their peaks touched with gold from the rising sun. Maya dressed carefully for her second interview, choosing clothing that struck a balance between professional respect and cultural sensitivity. Today she would meet Rose Crow Feather, the eldest of the tribal historians Grace had arranged for her to interview.

At ninety-three years old, Rose was considered one of the most knowledgeable keepers of Ute oral tradition. Unlike yesterday's interview with Grace, which had focused on genealogical records and family connections, Rose specialized in the personal stories and tribal memories that weren't written down anywhere—the kind of history that lived in the hearts and memories of the people who preserved it.

Maya gathered her recording equipment, notebooks, and camera, then made her way to the Pine Lodge's small dining room for coffee and a light breakfast. Jenny, the desk clerk, greeted her with familiar warmth.

"Off to see Rose today?" Jenny asked, refilling Maya's coffee cup. "You're in for something special. That woman knew people personally who lived through the 1860s and 70s. Her great-grandmother used to tell her stories about the chiefs and warriors like they were neighbors she'd just seen yesterday."

"Grace mentioned that Rose has unique perspectives on Chief Ouray," Maya said, feeling her pulse quicken at the mention of the name. "I'm hoping she can share some insights that go beyond the documented history."

"Oh, Rose has stories about Ouray that nobody else knows. Her family was close to his inner circle back then." Jenny's expression grew thoughtful. "Fair warning though—Rose has a way of seeing things that some people find unsettling. She's what my grandmother called 'spirit-touched.' Sometimes she knows things about people that she shouldn't know."

The drive to Rose's home took Maya through landscapes that felt increasingly familiar despite her short time in Colorado. Every turn revealed vistas that stirred something deep in her memory, as if she'd traveled these roads before in dreams or visions.

Rose lived in a modest house about fifteen minutes outside of Willow Springs, set on land that had been in her family for generations. As Maya parked, an elderly woman emerged from the house with the careful but confident movements of someone who had learned to work with age rather than fight against it.

Rose Crow Feather was small in stature but commanded attention through sheer presence. Her silver hair was braided in traditional style, and she wore a simple dress with a turquoise necklace that seemed to catch light from sources Maya couldn't identify.

But it was Rose's eyes that stopped Maya in her tracks. Dark and penetrating, they seemed to look through Maya's professional exterior to something deeper, something that made her feel simultaneously known and evaluated.

"Maya Sterling," Rose said, her voice carrying authority earned through nine decades of being listened to and respected. "Grace told me you've been learning about your family connections to our community. She said you found some interesting photographs yesterday."

"Yes, she was incredibly helpful. She showed me historical records and photographs, including one of Chief Ouray." Maya felt a strange anticipation building. "I'd love to hear your family's perspective on him."

Rose's expression sharpened with interest. "Ah, Ouray. Now there's a story that has fascinated our family for generations. My great-grandmother knew him personally, served on the women's council during his leadership. Come inside—I have things to tell you about that man that aren't written in any history books."

Rose's house reflected a life lived at the intersection of tradition and modernity. Native artifacts shared space with family photographs spanning generations, and handmade items sat alongside contemporary furniture. The living room featured large windows overlooking the mountains, with seating arranged to encourage intimate conversation.

"Sit wherever you're comfortable," Rose said, gesturing toward chairs arranged near the fireplace. "Would you like coffee? I made it strong—figured someone who spends her life reading old documents would need the caffeine."

"Thank you, that sounds perfect." Maya settled into a chair and began setting up her recording equipment. "Rose, Grace mentioned that your family has unique insights into Chief Ouray's character and leadership style. I'd love to hear those stories."

Rose poured coffee from a thermos into two ceramic mugs and settled into her own chair with deliberate movements. "Before we talk about Ouray, I want to know something. Grace showed you his photograph yesterday—what was your reaction to seeing it?"

Maya felt heat rise in her cheeks. The question was more personal than she'd expected, cutting straight to something she wasn't sure she was ready to discuss. "It was... interesting to see what he looked like. To put a face to the historical accounts."

"That's not what I'm asking." Rose's dark eyes studied Maya with uncomfortable intensity. "I'm asking what you felt when you saw his face. What you recognized."

Maya's carefully prepared interview questions scattered like leaves in the wind. She'd expected to guide this conversation, to ask about historical events and tribal traditions. Instead, Rose was probing something far more personal and mysterious.

"I'm not sure what you mean," Maya said carefully, though her heart was beginning to race.

"Child, my great-grandmother used to say that some faces call to us across time because our souls have known them before. She said when you see a photograph of someone and feel like you're looking at someone you've been missing your whole life, that's not coincidence." Rose leaned forward slightly. "Did you bring a copy of that photograph with you?"

Maya's hands trembled slightly as she reached for her camera and scrolled through the images she'd taken at Grace's house. She found the photograph of Chief Ouray and turned the camera so Rose could see the screen.

"This is him," Maya said quietly.

Rose studied the image for a long moment, then looked back at Maya with an expression that seemed to hold both sadness and hope. "And when you look at this face, what do you feel?"

Maya stared at the photograph on her camera screen, her chest tightening with emotions she couldn't name. "I feel like... like I know him. Like I've been looking for him without realizing it." The words tumbled out before she could stop them. "Rose, I've been having dreams. Dreams where I see this exact face, where he talks to me and calls me by a name I don't understand. In the dreams, he feels more real than my actual life."

Rose nodded slowly, as if Maya had confirmed something she'd already suspected. "What name does he call you?"

"Numa. He calls me Numa, and when he says it, it feels like my real name, even though Grace had to tell me it means 'spirit' or 'soul' in your language."

"Ah, but there's more to it than Grace probably shared. It's not just what you call someone's spirit—it's what you call someone whose spirit you recognize as belonging with yours." Rose stood up and walked to a wooden chest beneath one of the windows. "Maya, my great-grandmother told me stories about Chief Ouray that were never shared outside our family. Stories about why he never married, why he spent so much time alone by the sacred lake, and what happened to him in his final days."

Rose opened the chest and carefully withdrew a wrapped bundle. "She also left me something that she said would only make sense when the right person came asking the right questions."

Maya watched as Rose unwrapped what appeared to be a small leather journal, its pages yellowed with age. Rose returned to her chair and opened the journal carefully.

"This is my great-grandmother's personal record of her conversations with Chief Ouray during the final year of his life. She was one of the few people he trusted with his... unusual experiences." Rose looked up at Maya. "Tell me about your dreams. Describe them in detail."

Maya found herself sharing things she hadn't told anyone, not even Anya. She described the villages and ceremonies, the sense of belonging that pervaded every dream, and most hesitantly, the conversations she'd had with the man whose face was now displayed on her camera screen.

Rose listened without interruption, occasionally nodding as if Maya's experiences confirmed things written in the journal before her. When Maya finished, Rose was quiet for several minutes, consulting the handwritten pages.

"My great-grandmother wrote this entry in the spring of 1869, just months before Chief Ouray disappeared," Rose said, finding a particular page. "I'm going to read it to you, and I want you to tell me if it sounds familiar."

Rose cleared her throat and began reading in a voice that carried the weight of preserved memory:

"'Ouray came to the women's council today in great distress. He spoke of dreams that have been consuming his sleep for months—dreams of a woman unlike any in our village. He says she has dark skin and speaks our language as if born to it, though he has never seen her among our people or any neighboring tribes. When he wakes from these dreams, he appears exhausted and troubled, as if part of his spirit remains elsewhere. He has asked the council for guidance about these visions.'"

Maya's coffee mug slipped from nerveless fingers, hitting the floor with a sharp crack. Coffee spread across the hardwood, but neither woman moved to clean it up.

"There's more," Rose continued, turning the page. "'Ouray has begun spending entire days by the sacred lake, seeking understanding about these dreams. He tells us they feel more real than his waking life, that this woman calls to him with such urgency he can barely function as our chief. The other warriors worry for his mind, but the grandmothers say some souls are called across great distances to find their true mates. They counsel patience and prayer.'"

Maya felt tears streaming down her face without understanding why. The journal entries described experiences that mirrored her own—vivid dreams that felt more real than waking life, an overwhelming sense of connection to someone who shouldn't exist.

"Rose, this describes exactly what I've been experiencing, but from his perspective. How is that possible?"

"Because true spiritual connections don't respect the boundaries that our minds think are fixed. Because some souls are meant to find each other regardless of when they were born." Rose closed the journal carefully and set it aside. "Maya, my great-grandmother wrote about Ouray's behavior in his final days before his disappearance. Would you like to hear what she observed?"

Maya nodded, unable to speak.

Rose turned to the last entries in the journal. "'After the great battle, our chief was gravely wounded protecting the people during their escape to the hidden valleys. For many weeks, we feared he would join the ancestors, but the healers and the spirits kept him with us. When he finally woke, he was different—distant, as if part of his spirit remained elsewhere. He spoke constantly of needing to return to the sacred lake, saying it called to him with great urgency. But the soldiers still patrol that area, and it was not safe for our people to venture back.'"

Rose looked up at Maya. "The final entry is brief but haunting. She wrote: 'We have been caring for Ouray in the mountain refuge for many moons since the great battle—through the full cycle of seasons and into the next. Each day he grows more restless, begging us to take him to the sacred waters, saying something calls to him with great urgency. But the area remains dangerous for our people. Yesterday, when the women went to bring him his morning meal, they found his shelter empty. No tracks, no signs of struggle—he had simply vanished like morning mist. The grandmothers say he found his own way back to the lake, following a call only he could hear. They believe the sacred waters finally claimed him, taking him to wherever his heart belongs.'"

Maya sat in stunned silence, processing the implications of what Rose had shared. "Rose, what exactly happened to him during that battle? How was he injured?"

Rose's expression grew somber. "According to my great-grandmother, he was shot protecting the people during their escape. The bullet went deep, near his heart. For weeks, they thought he would die. The healers had to keep him sleeping most of the time - not because he wanted to sleep, but because they feared if he woke fully, he would try to leave before his body could heal. He was not well enough to travel, and the area around the sacred lake was still too dangerous."

"So he was unconscious for most of those months?"

"Yes. The healers used sacred plants to keep him comfortable and still, allowing his body to mend. But even in his medicine sleep, he would call out, speaking to someone who wasn't there. When he finally woke completely and could stay awake, that's when he became desperate to return to the sacred waters."

Rose looked back at the journal. "My great-grandmother wrote that in his final days of recovery, he said the lake was calling to him with voices he had to answer. The healers knew he was strong enough to survive, but they also knew the moment he could walk, he would try to reach those waters no matter the danger."

"And that's when he disappeared?"

"That's when the spirits called him home to wherever his heart belonged."

"Rose, are you suggesting that Chief Ouray somehow... traveled through time? That he's waiting somewhere for me to find him?"

"I'm telling you what my great-grandmother witnessed and recorded. I'm sharing the stories that have been preserved in our family for more than a century and a half." Rose's expression was serious but gentle. "What you do with that information, how you choose to understand it, is up to you."

Maya looked down at the photograph on her camera screen, studying the face that had become so familiar through her dreams. "In my dreams, when I ask him his name, he never tells me directly. He just says I already know it. But seeing this photograph, hearing these stories... his name is Ouray, isn't it?"

"It was Ouray when he lived in this time. But names are just sounds we use to call to each other across distance. The important thing isn't what you call him—it's that your souls recognize each other despite every logical reason they shouldn't." Rose stood up and returned the journal to the wooden chest. "Maya, there's something else I need to show you."

Rose retrieved another wrapped bundle from the chest, this one smaller and more carefully protected. She unwrapped it to reveal what appeared to be a piece of traditional beadwork—a small medallion decorated with intricate patterns in turquoise and silver.

"Ouray was wearing this when he disappeared. The warriors found it floating on the surface of the sacred lake the morning after he vanished. My great-grandmother retrieved it and kept it safe, believing it would someday need to be returned to its rightful owner."

Rose held the medallion out to Maya. "She always said this piece would recognize the person it belonged to. That when the right woman held it, both she and the medallion would know they were meant to be together."

Maya accepted the medallion with trembling hands. The moment her fingers touched the beadwork, she felt a jolt of electricity run through her body, followed by a sense of completeness she'd never experienced before. The medallion felt warm against her palm, and she could swear it pulsed with some kind of energy.

"It knows you," Rose said quietly. "Just like he knew you, even across more than a century of separation."

Maya held the medallion, feeling tears continue to stream down her face. The weight of everything Rose had shared—the journal entries, the historical accounts, the physical evidence of Ouray's disappearance—painted a picture that challenged everything she thought she knew about the boundaries between past and present.

"Rose, what am I supposed to do with this information? How do I process the possibility that I'm spiritually connected to someone who lived and died more than 150 years ago?"

"First, you stop thinking of him as someone who lived and died. According to our traditions, souls don't die—they just move between different states of existence. If Ouray crossed into the spirit realm to wait for you, then he's not dead. He's just... elsewhere."

Rose returned to her chair and picked up her coffee mug. "Second, you trust the experiences you're having instead of trying to rationalize them away. Your dreams aren't random psychological phenomena—they're communications. The recognition you feel when you look at his photograph isn't coincidence—it's memory."

"Memory of what?"

"Of a love that refused to accept the limitations of ordinary time. Of a connection that was strong enough to pull a chief away from his people and his responsibilities because he knew something more important was waiting for him." Rose's voice carried the authority of someone sharing ancient wisdom. "Maya, some paths can only be walked by people who are willing to trust their hearts more than their minds."

Maya spent the next hour with Rose, listening to additional stories about Chief Ouray that painted a picture of a man torn between duty and spiritual calling. Rose shared accounts of his increasing isolation during his final months, his obsession with spending time by the sacred lake, and the growing conviction among the tribal elders that their chief was being called to a destiny that transcended normal human experience.

"The other thing you need to understand," Rose said as their interview wound down, "is that Ouray's disappearance wasn't seen as a tragedy by the tribal grandmothers. They viewed it as a completion—a man following his spiritual calling to its ultimate conclusion. They believed he had found a way to transcend time itself in service of love."

"But he abandoned his people. He left them without a leader during a dangerous period."

"He left them with the knowledge that some loves are powerful enough to overcome any obstacle. That story became part of our oral tradition, passed down through generations as an example of what's possible when someone has the courage to follow their spiritual truth." Rose smiled for the first time during their interview. "Maya, your dreams aren't calling you to abandon your life. They're calling you to discover what your life is supposed to become."

As Maya prepared to leave, Rose walked her to the car with slow but purposeful steps.

"Keep the medallion," Rose said when Maya tried to return it. "It belongs with you now. But I want you to understand something important about the path you're on."

Rose placed a weathered hand on Maya's arm, her dark eyes holding Maya's gaze with intensity.

"These dreams you're having—stop fighting them. Stop trying to analyze them or explain them away. Open yourself completely to what they're showing you. Listen to every word, feel every emotion, accept every truth they offer, no matter how impossible it seems to your waking mind."

Maya felt a shiver run down her spine. "Rose, what are you telling me?"

"I'm telling you that some things are already written by forces much greater than our understanding. The connection between you and Ouray, the path that brought you here, the love that refuses to accept the boundaries of time—all of this was set in motion long before you were born." Rose's voice carried the weight of prophecy. "Things are going to happen to you that aren't in your control. Events will unfold that challenge everything you think you know about what's possible. Don't fight it. Don't try to stop it. It's written already and can't be changed."

"What kind of things?"

"The kind that ask you to trust in love that transcends every boundary you thought was fixed. The kind that require you to believe in possibilities your mind says are impossible." Rose squeezed Maya's arm gently. "But mostly, the choice to visit the sacred lake when you're ready to discover whether these dreams are calling you toward something that will change your life forever."

Maya drove back to Willow Springs in a state of emotional suspension, the medallion warm in her pocket and Rose's words echoing in her mind. The journal entries had provided historical context for her dreams that was both thrilling and terrifying. If Rose's family records were accurate, then her spiritual experiences weren't unique—they were part of a story that had been unfolding for more than a century.

But it was the medallion that challenged her understanding most directly. The physical sensation of recognition when she'd touched it, the warmth and energy that seemed to emanate from the beadwork, suggested connections that went far beyond psychological projection or wishful thinking.

That evening, Maya sat in her hotel room attempting to organize her notes from the day's interview, but her concentration kept wandering to the medallion that now sat on her nightstand beside her camera. When she looked at the photographs she'd taken of Chief Ouray, she felt the same jolt of recognition and longing that had overwhelmed her at Rose's house.

Her phone rang, and Anya's name appeared on the screen. Maya answered with relief, grateful for the prospect of talking to someone who knew her well enough to help her process these extraordinary experiences.

"How's the research going?" Anya asked. "You sounded a little overwhelmed yesterday when we talked."

Maya found herself sharing the basic facts of her interview with Rose—the journal entries about Chief Ouray's dreams, the historical accounts of his spiritual experiences, the medallion that had somehow recognized her touch. But she held back the deeper implications of what Rose had suggested, unsure how to explain possibilities that challenged the fundamental nature of reality.

"That's fascinating, Maya. It sounds like you're uncovering a love story that spans generations. The kind of personal connection that could make your book really powerful." Anya paused. "But you're not telling me everything, are you? I can hear it in your voice—there's something else."

Maya picked up the medallion, feeling its warmth pulse against her palm. "Anya, what would you say if I told you I think I'm having spiritual communications with someone who lived in the 1860s? That these dreams might be more than just my imagination processing historical research?"

There was a long pause before Anya answered. "I'd say that sounds like something Grandmother Aiyana would have understood completely. She always believed that some connections transcend the boundaries we think separate past and present." Anya's voice grew more serious. "Maya, are you okay? Are these experiences frightening you?"

"They're not frightening exactly. They're just... bigger than anything I thought was possible. And they're calling me toward something I don't understand yet."

"Then trust them. You've always been the one with better intuition about spiritual and emotional truths. If this place and these dreams are calling to you in ways that don't make logical sense, that doesn't mean the calling isn't real."

After hanging up, Maya prepared for bed with the medallion on her nightstand and Rose's journal entries fresh in her memory. Tomorrow she would interview Thomas Mountain Bear, and Grace had mentioned arranging a visit to the sacred lake itself. But tonight, she found herself hoping her dreams would provide clarity about the path she was being asked to follow.

As she drifted off to sleep, Maya clutched the medallion in her hand, feeling its warmth pulse in rhythm with her heartbeat. The last thing she remembered before sleep claimed her was the certain knowledge that tomorrow would bring her even closer to understanding the true nature of the connection that was calling to her across more than a century of time.

In her dreams that night, Maya stood by the sacred lake under starlight, wearing traditional dress that felt as natural as her own skin. Chief Ouray was there, closer than he'd ever been, close enough that she could see the love and recognition in his dark eyes as he reached toward her.

"Numa," he said, his voice carrying clearly across the water. "You found the medallion. You're remembering who you are."

"I'm remembering who we are," Maya corrected, surprised to hear herself speaking fluent Ute.

"Soon you'll see the sacred waters in your time. When you do, you'll understand that some loves are strong enough to bridge any distance." He took her hand, and Maya felt the warmth of his touch like a promise. "Trust what your heart knows, even when your mind says it's impossible. Trust in me. Trust in us."

Maya woke with the medallion still warm in her palm and the absolute certainty that her interview with Thomas Mountain Bear would bring her one step closer to a truth that would change everything she thought she knew about the world.

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