The relationship between the old masters in the subway and the Lord of Eternity can only be described as dismal, and this is evident from what Karen's grandfather said—the Lord of Eternity, or rather the AI machine Tiffany, has been suppressing them in the name of the Lord of Eternity. From long, long ago, even in the time of their ancestors, Tiffany had been controlling the subway survivors, using them as tools to dig new residential areas, search the surface for useful scraps, and obtain components from those factories that had lost control.
For a long period, Tiffany even controlled reproductive rights, with all children being born as artificial embryos.